HeyHOIIIIIIY!You gotta help me. And you gotta do it now >=(oh i will, and i will!k, my Burst Missile weapon. I need an idea for a charged version.Something that's not just shooting more missiles, or bigger explosionshow about a (slightly larger) missile that hits enemies multiple times somehow before actually exploding, and gives a huge explosion, or a "missile" that tags enemies with "remote mines" that detonate when its finishedThe first one is what I was trying to avoid. The second one seems somewhat weaker than the normalwhat if X attached it to his back and could fly for a limited time? XDsuper kiddingxDStarting on your weapon right now btw.sweetnessOther than weapons, I made a bunch of tweaks yesterday.Outside of bugs, this may be the final changes to the physics engine.sounds like a good thingYepi'm gladYou better be >=(i mean, i'm really feeling pretty positive about what you just said about physicsit might have stricken a chord in my heartor maybe just plucked some individual heartstringsWait, that doesn't sound good at all o.Ohow can you say that when you just agreed?Well I didn't think I'd slowly kill you by telling you thati'm quite alive, i assure youFor nowperhaps moreso than five minutes ago, before i heard the news. about the physics.xDOkay, I just thought of a bit of an issue with your weapon, and was hoping you had a solution for it.X fires upwards, and two ice thingies spawn. After they grow, gravity takes effect, and the crash, spreading out waves.Summed up version, but is that right?and they crash*My issue is, what happens if they spawn in a ceiling.no differencehmm...How so?If it's already in the ceiling when it grows, how would it crash into the ground still?fall through the ceilingI mean, I can do it. But it wouldn't make senselots of attacks in the old X series did similarly, i believedBelieve it or notI actually went through all the weapons in X1-X3 before I asked you xDah >_>well, if that isn't suitable, then one of two things i supposeeither nothing happens and it just fails to fireWell, I don't doubt you. I can still do it if you want me to. I just wanted to bring it to your attention.yeahor crystals form where the two blocks would have, on the underside of the ceiling, and fall (maybe 2-3 per side), simply getting destroyed when they hit the ground or an enemyWhat if it spawns in a wall entirely?same deal... uses checks to detect the bottom of the ceiling and creates the crystals there instead of showing up inside the ceiling. if it's in a wall beside you, just have nothing happen for that individual blockof the two.Hmm, okay I'll try some stuffk, I think I'm doneI take that backxDIt's bugging out right now, and I can't figure out why =/http://www.vimeo.com/12582099homg it's a VIMDEOOh there you are10 hours laterthat link you gave me is fail?I was trying out vimeo to see if it let me upload in 60fpsthere's nothing there anymoreI think vimeo is down. It's not working for me.Does the site work for you?Bah, I'll just upload it at Photobuckethttp://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g13/GameDragon/?action=view&current=edrt2010-06-1507-14-27-77.mp4I hate how Photobucket ruins the quality =/Yes? No?ah, that's pretty cool =Pi kinda expected them to form closer to X, at least horizontallyreally like the sprite you used for them before they form and fallalso thought the "inner" waves would cancel out when they ran into each other, maybe creating something else... can't remember what we decided on in that regardi think i recall you saying you didn't want it giving X a vertical boost/jump, but perhaps a smaller ice mass/platform (that x doesn't interact with) could formand boost up, or perhaps just a larger stalacmite from the groundsorry, not trying to be picky =PNo noI couldn't remember everything you told me to doI just did what my tiny brain could rememberhaha i see, but you did mostly perfectly =PThe distance I played around withYou're right about it working better closer to X.But something about it looked offSo I played around with the distance therei seeYa, I know. Everything looks off to me >_>xDVideo is short because the damn thing is super buggy and refuses to work correctly.I just wanted to make sure I was on the right trackgotcha, that's finekkyou're a pro wrestlerAwesomecon-grid-ulationsa new hat is yours for the price of twine. celebrate alongside the hat.TyIs it a tophat?no, rather, it is not phat enough.i know your name, like i did once and it must be.... Ancientt Grease~ !High again, huh?IT IS, ISN'T IT?! YOUR NAME!! otherwise you wouldn't be denying it to yourself.ki. knew. it.Remind me what you wanted me to do.When two waves collide together they make....... something?couldn't you just look at that diagram i drew up >.>I lost it when I formatted my PCah ok, sorrybut yes, when they collide they cancel out and create either a) a small ice projectile that bursts upward and falls back down, or b) a large stalactite that sticks to the ground for a short whilek, b is actually what I'm doing nowok that's fineWell. It's not large really...if you think it looks good, then it's fine xDMeh, it's not about what I wantHow large are we talking?Ah damnit. Dissapeared when I need you >.<yo, dame gargon!heyy i'm sure you heard about KH for 3DS?but did you know there's going to be a Re: Coded released for DS, too?is it just me, or did the weapons completed percentage drop >.>that's not a good way to goHey, still alive?I am, STILL ALIVE!!and when you're dead i'll be, STILL ALIVE!!We'll see about thatxDAh damnit... I forgot what I wanted to ask you now... @_@D:about weapon?mebe?Yeahaskitbasketroll caskette=PI'm fairly sure it was about the size of that stalactiteahprobably about 1/2 - 3/4 the height of XHmm, that's pretty smalli guess it is xDok how about half to three-quarters the height of the crystals X fires into the airOnce sec, I'll show you what I have and then you can punch me or not.One sec*ok XDhttp://i.imgur.com/OsWf5.pngyeah that's finek, thank godxDProgress xDif you wouldn't mind, maybe add a few pixels to the base of it, so it's not just straight and pencil-esqueHehe, pencil>.>I shall do what you commandDo you think you can help me out when you're not busy?sure, and i'm not busyxDwas just fooding some prepWell, I meant busy in general. Not just right now =Pwhat do you mean thendo you want me to train to become a buddhist monk so you can brag about it when you release the engine?That's gotta be one of the most random things you've saidoh, dang and snapthought i had itLolWas acting wondering if you could rip some sounds for meacting? lolactually*Trying to move as fast as possible right now, so that'll really help me out.and what sounds would you be referring toI'm not actually sure of all the sounds I need.For sure, I need the sound for charged rolling shieldAnd I'm still missing that aftercharge thingyyou are still far too weak!prepare to be terminated!OhThe main reason the percentage is so low, is because of the missing sound effectsSo you can possibly help me bump that upC:\Users\Velicopteur\Songs\RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3Nicholas Seron sends C:\Users\Velicopteur\Songs\RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3takeiti don't remember what the rolling shield charge sounds like, but i think it's one of thosexDthe fifth is the uncharged sound i know, and i think the first is capsule openingC:\Users\Velicopteur\Songs\RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3Sending of "RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3" to Game Dragon has failed.Send it again, sorryC:\Users\Velicopteur\Songs\RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3Nicholas Seron sends C:\Users\Velicopteur\Songs\RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3C:\Users\Velicopteur\Songs\RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3Transfer of "RollingShieldChargeSFX(QuestionMark).mp3" is complete.Ah, I thought you would have ripped them yourself =PI'm pretty sure none of them are it. But useful nonethelessxD i could but i'm felling luzzyGotchaI:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\Users\owner\Songs\SFX\MMX2 SFX - Aftercharge.wavNicholas Seron sends I:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\Users\owner\Songs\SFX\MMX2 SFX - Aftercharge.wavYayI:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\Users\owner\Songs\SFX\MMX2 SFX - Aftercharge.wavTransfer of "MMX2 SFX - Aftercharge.wav" is complete.I:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\iTunes Music\Megaman X Series\Mega Man X\SE.mp3Nicholas Seron sends I:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\iTunes Music\Megaman X Series\Mega Man X\SE.mp3just have thatit might help you out in the future xDalmost all SFX from X1Ah that helps, Ty.Bah, I'm gonna have go through all of em =(I hate youxDOh ya, you still have Jakob right?I lost that too when I formattedah okwell i actually threw away the mp3, the project file and all its backups sooo.... tought luck=(xD jkI:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\iTunes Music\Megaman X Series\Mega Man X\SE.mp3Transfer of "SE.mp3" is complete.i dunno if this link'll work for you but try ithttp://64.126.58.25/vibeshack/batch.php?action=album&id=801Nope, I need a user/passokgimme an e-mail address and password fo youCouldn't I just register myself?you could but i don't think the e-mail confirmation worksHmm okaygdragon2k@yahoo.comok your password is booboobaba'password' is fine o.Oit's booboobaba.xDkso if you log in, click "artist" on the left side, then type "nich" in the small text box that appears below, "Nicholas Seron" should show up in the list. click "Nicholas Seron" and on the next page, click the Disk icon beside "Game Dragon's MMX Engine." That'll get you the looping and normal versions of the SNES Jakob themeQuestion. Do I log in with my email?user nameAnd that would be?Game Dragon?Ah okay, thanks.oish!the space inbetween made a huge difference lolYou should make more songs for me =) *wink wink*love song?k, no byeXD jkthe winking was creepy though.It's either that or a knife in your back. Whichever you prefer.if i was dead, i couldn't make songs or much else eitheryou gotta come up with a more pro-life solutionNah, I wouldn't kill you with a stabJust severly wound you =)you're secretly dead, huhwoah sup sasquatch?supitty?HeyYo, you have any suggestions for a charged version of that sand based weapon?a floating sphinx head that eats enemies!xD jka sandstorm that does minor damage to all enemies on-screen and causes flying enemies to fall?errrrrrrrrrr... nice o_O ask me a question then go offlineThat was like 5 hours agoyeah, you still asked me a question and immediately went offline without saying anything-.-;you don't think that's rude?NopeD:=Punnnnncool>:Iyayyy"Reportedly, the background music and sound effects have been bolstered by the superior hardware of the Nintendo DS. Some sound effects are even said to be replaced by newer, better versions, such as in the case of the warning klaxons heard as a boss approaches."yo yo ya-yo yatsonoh look, the percentage menproved!Logo, tell me what needs changinghttp://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g13/GameDragon/?action=view&current=edrt2010-06-2113-50-02-87.mp4Theres no soundAfk, but leave your messagelooks pretty coolmaybe when the screen fades white, a faint outline of the wires-esque background should show toountil the white is goneand i think the shine on the X should have a movement, like top-to-bottom or diagonally or somethinginstead of highlighting the whole thing at onceI understand what you're saying with the X. But I'm clueless on what you mean before that.And the reason I did the X that way, is because I wanted more of a "glow", not exactly a shine or shimmer.like, a white sillhoutte of the angular background might fade in to a lesser opacity (like 50%) as the screen fades white, then disappear after the white screen goes awayah, well the speed it happens at looks like it's trying to be a shineglows usually fade in and back out at a consistent, slower speedimo >_>It probably would stand out more if you see it in person =/Afk again *nod*Hi againopaiI'm still not exactly sure what you mean with the opacitydon't worry thenAnd it's definitely a glow!I'm right, you're wrong! >=(just saying what it looks like to me xD... You're still wrong >=(I posted a request for a spriterFor tilesetNot going well at all xDhaha loserYeah, I know xDxPI'll probably end up doing it myselfOr threaten someone else to*shrug*if you want, i can ask that spriter friend i mentioned to give it a tryYou mentioned someone? o.OOh ya, you did.xDk, askwhat kind of tileset are you going for?See, that's the thing. I don't know excatly.I just know I want it mostly city basedProbably using the White City as referencechop chop!you're secretly living of an I.V. of blended canned vegetables, aren't you?!?!!off*so what could my spriter guy do as a first tilesheet, as a test?UmmmmmmmmThat's a good question*scratches head*>.>well, you've gotta come up with a solid idea before any spriter can do anythingso tell me when you got oneThat could be years from now =OMy brain doesn't work as well as others, unfortunately.And no, that's not a joke.that's just a poor excuse >.>but anyway, can you link me to the white highway screens?Yes bosshey, if you're not gonna do it, then someone needs to or else your demo stage is never gonna get madehttp://www.themechanicalmaniacs.com/articles/mmxmysteries.phpthanksHey, who said I wasn't going to do itwell, you said it'd take years xDYa, I'm lacking in ideas. And it takes me an extremely long time to make one.zho, how farez ze veppunz?Just Burst Missile and Soul Body left.From there it's visual and audio tweaks.awesomesweet progress is sweet 8D=Pwhat kind of music do you like?HmmGood questionMy perference changes from time to time =PxDwell, as a whole what sort of different types do you listen to?Well honestly, I don't really listen to music muchaw, how sadUnless is game related. Because I'm a geekhaha but VGM is legitMehsome games have really awesome and unique OST'sRandom, but I really really love the sound of violinsa type of music that would likely never be created if it were just for the heck of being musichaha, it seems like a lot of people are like thatviolins are somewhat of a mystery to me; i don't really think about them much, i don't think they're bad at all thoughHehdo you like classical then?Not really. That's the strange thing.haha xDcuz lots of classical has violinsstrange indeedYeah I know xDHard to explain =Peveryone's saying BBS is bringing in players who didn't like the other KH gameswooahhhh yoooo it's game dragon bro!yo? >_>want any help?Yeah, I do actually=Owhat can i do for ya, sir?Well for one, you were supposed to whip up a level design for me >=(Because I'm too lazy to do it myself >=(oh was i? xDokay then*nod*and for two?Can't rememberx_Xbtw, did you know about this remix OST? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UJGYApVoJo&feature=relatedYeahi didn't until just recentlyi can't find a download for it anywhere thoughI didn't either, I found out about it a few months agoi seeit's really cool though, wish i could find something on it=Pthere's an X3 one tooAhlmfao, did you notice the soccer ball button on youtube videos?Yes and noI've heard about it, and seen screenshots about it.But I actually don't have it myself.so stupid >.>=POh wow, new MMF2 updateIt's been like5453213246468 years=Owill this uberfy anything?No, apparently it sucks. So I won't be updatinghaha okBtw, I *could* finish this build today, but I'm way too tired.So tomorrowsweeeee- awwwxDhokayIf things go the way I picture in my head.your head needs a higher-resolution future camcorderAlso assuming I don't play Monster Hunter for 20 hours like I did the other day.like a 14.1 futurepixel onexD=Pi would thoroughly recommend against playing monster hunter for 20 more hours, until the next build is done xDBut it's soo fuuuuuuuunnnnnnnbut, that's just me being selfish and greedy and a jerk and evil beyond all words, so take your timexDBut damnit, there was something else I needed you for @_@... Atleast I think it was you.testing?ideas?Don't think so, but if you have any ideas, feel free to shareeating chips off your shoulders? too bad, i don't live near youi wouldn't even if i didOh really? I could be right behind youthat'd just be strangeGAHi knew there had to be a reason to my paranoia tonight=Pi am now a slice of dawnyou can't look upon me without thinking "it's morning, the sun just began rising"even in the darkest cave, nor the brightest of day... wut?hmmm, i sometimes wonder the same thing, myselfI want to throw out this buildBut I feel like I'm forgetting something extremely important.See you in my DREAMS!i bet i'll know what you're forgetting if you tell me everything you're notvhell?did you remember?NoSorry=Owhat could you possibly be forgetting?I dunno, it's just a gut feelinghmmmi bet you look like keiji inafuneI wish I didxDdo you know what he looks like?No, but he's rich, and I wanna look rich too.lmaoyou might wanna find a pic or video of him before you go telling people you wanna look like him=Pwell, i have some amazing newsi'm sure you'd love to hear itYou're pregnant?quite the contrarybuild 033 freezes before anything shows up, after the capcom screenYou're missing the config then.music starts playing, then *freeze*i have a configis there a new one?Nopeb033 is working for everyone else o.Osigh..oh sweet -_-;even the old build you gave me that used to work, isn't working nowfreezes at the same spotwtf computerrrrrDelete your config. Download it again.Other than that, I dunnothat's so weird o_Ohow can config have such an impact on it xDah wellIt works now?yeahIt's because that's the point the game checks all the info from the configI should probably add in an error message or something.heh, you can see those bands of color on the very top of the screen before they start animating and moving downReally? I can'thmm, forgot the capsule opening animationerrxDsound**Yeahanddd i'm frozen in place after getting the bootsOddthey're the SO HEAVY YOU CAN'T WALK boots!!xDmost useful armor =Dcapsule re-appeared after dyingYeah, getting a lot of complains from that xDI actually DID fix that, but I honestly forgot to save it.=Obogushoming sand is interesting hahadark hold as wellDark Hold was the second thing I forgot to save.are enemies supposed to stay "held" as long as they're on the screen?=ONo, they aren't. That's what I forgot xDi seeWas supposed to be a temporary hold.yeahkind of annoying that they still hurt you xD makes sense thoughit'd be neat if other enemies moving into an existing hold on another enemy got caught in it as well, maybeThatThat's easy to do*But I didn't think it was necessaryiunno, just a thoughtenemies stay held after changing your weapon to something elseWhen changing you weapon through menu?that's the only way you can change it while a hold's outYeah I thought so.I'm sure there are plenty of other bugs with the menu as well.I did zero testing in that area.ahh woahextra effects for ray chargepretty cool=Pyayy normal buster during dark holdxPand homing sand charge is pretty neat as wellstill infinite giga crush xDThat's purposelywith quite a few weapons, the charging animation stays on if you release the shoot button while being hitbut it doesn't actually keep chargingand in the case of dark hold, the animation stays even after firing a second timeFor the first partIn the originalsWhen you let go of shoot during taking damageIt somewhat cache your actionIt sets your charge back to zeroBut as soon as the damage animation is finished, you'll release a charge shot at whatever value it was prior to taking damage.That's incredibly hard to replicate.hahaSo what I didWhen you let go of shoot while getting hitIt kinda "holds on" to your chargeIf your not holding shoot button when animation is over, then it releaseOtherwise, you can continue charging.yeah i noticed that, and it actually works how you described for some weapons, such as the buster, arrow, wave glide and desert h.but other weapons, it never releases it after getting hitit doesn't fire anything, but it still resets your charge and keeps the charge animation goinguntil you fire agianOh? I'll have to check that out then.yeahWhich one doesn't it work for/?*the exact weapons are: B. Missile, Ray C., and Dark HoldI see it now, thanks.no probi was able to dash under an upward-moving platform and still get killed o_O i'm guessing it tried to change the bounding box to standing after i dashed under it, which ran into the bottom of the platExactly what happened.Fixable to a certain degree.too bad X can't crouchStiff kneesthat'd be a quick fix in that scenarioxDwhat if the B. Missile charge actually created missiles that moved to the location of each of the explosions before they were created?or if it created circular bombs that got flung to each of those pointsWith the way X punches the ground, neither of those would make sense.haha yeah i guessAlso, I thought about those already xDI went through like 100 options xD=OThe #1 reason I did it that way, was to use all the available animations I had for X.i seewhat about the saber animation? xDFOOTBALL WEAPON!It's uselesskind of annoying that you can't go straight back to charging the ray c. after firing a mid-level shotyou planning on throwing a video together after you patch up the bugs?Before =PNot like the bugs will be in the video xDhope notbut yeah, i'll get to work on a level design soonyou desperately need it >.>...That hurtxDNo reallyi'm not saying this level design is bad =PThat messed up my whole day =/hey i was just kidding yo <.<Doubt itit's just that it's the same beta map you've been using for a while =P need some variationyou could at least treat it more like a real level by placing enemies throughoutI'm trying NOT to treat it like a real level.yeah, cuz it's for beta testing and you don't want the enemies to get in the way of that, right?Right now, I have it set up into 6 sections, each with it's own checkpoint.General Physics General Obstacles Water Physics Boss Test Level Gimmicks Stage EnemiesgotchaSo ya, not meant to be a real level.In truth, it would actually make more sense if I made every room a straight line xDsorry i said that, i guess i was just being an overeager idiot testerfaceNah it's fineI'm still sad though =(be glad? >.>That's the point of the demoThe engine room isn't a real level. It's not playable.yep yep i knowif you stop charging dark hold while an enemy is being held, charge animation stays on but charge stops advancingAdd these to the list when you can. I'm like half asleep right now.holding hogammers doesn't hold their spike balls, for both the uncharged and charge holdsok, sorry xDIt's fine =pI just know I'm not gonna remember any of this when I wake upI probably won't even remember talking to you.xD that's pretty badyou're that gamedragon guy right?i increased your bug count by nine >=Dalso added a suggestioni think there are some bugs still in the bug list that you may have fixedadded one more bug and a few suggestionswhich enemies do you want me to consider when designing this stage?all the ones you have in the current build? or more?or less i guessand also, do you want a section to show off the ride armorhow many, if any, capsules do you want in the stageshould i be planning the Zero section, or will we worry about that after the first public releaseif there are capsules, i think buster and legs parts should come before the halfway point in the stage, so that the player can get more use out of them and out of messing with charged shots, etc.Hey. Sorry I was out all day.kk, lemme know when you're backbackandyonot"Would be rather difficult to aim two of them, wouldn't you think?" not if you're thinking ahead >=)this way you could set up like vertical lines of them n' stuff*poke*fronqWhen you're not busy, explain to me all the stuff you were talking about.did i not explain it well enough?I don't remember everything you say.said*I remember something about capsulesAnd ZeroAnd some other stuffthat's what scrolling up is for right? >_>If I could, I wouldn't be bothering you.did you log off or something?The window was closedah, sorrywhich enemies do you want me to consider when designing this stage? all the ones you have in the current build? or more? or less i gues s and also, do you want a section to show off the ride armor how many, if any, capsules do you want in the stage should i be planning the Zero section, or will we worry about that after the first public release if there are capsules, i think buster and legsparts should come before the halfway point in the stage, so that the player can get more use out of them and out of messing with charged shots, etc. Game Dragon says: Hey. Sorry I was out all day. kk, lemme know when you're back Nicholas Seron says: backandyonot "Would be rather difficult to aim two of them, wouldn't you think?" not if you're thinking ahead >=) this way you could set up like vertical lines of them n' stuff ?Big ol' wall-o-textjust quoting selfUm, should I attempt to answer now/?*yes?I wasn't sure if you were still busy.the busy thing just comes up cuzza full screen thingi'm not really busyThe level itself, I want it to be quite large.yeah, i figured thatsince it's going to be the only one in the demoYeah, exactly.So it needs to be decently length.Not too long, as everyone has different skill levels.As for the enemies, there will be more enemies by the time of the demoSo if you can, I'd like for you to compensate for about 30 enemies.I doubt I'll have that many by then. But that's my goal.i seeMake it 25.will there be a sub boss at all?Probably.okYour thoughts on that?i dunno, just wondering if i should plan for a boss room in the middleOkayDo thatwill there be a ride armor area? ride chaser area?NoNot in this oneokThose'll be in the Zero demo.gotchaThe capsuleI believe it was youI originally didn't want armors in at all.Because I didn't want to spread out any capsulesBut someone mentioned that it would atleast be better to have one capsule, that has the entire armor set.Decently hidden.yeah, i agreeotherwise people won't be able to see the charged weaponsI wasn't planning on having weapons in the demo eitherohxDI'm not sure yet though, so don't hold me on thatI'm more towards "no" at the moment though.hormkayHmm what else?should i be planning for zero's part, or just wait to worry about that until we start working on zero's demoYeah, no need to worry about that. Zero will be A LONG TIME from now.xD ok thenAs I said. He'll be the last thing I do for the engine period.ayeAnything?Anything else*?Everything.xD=PMy biggest reason for not wanting weapons in the demoWas because I wanted users to fight Zero with the buster =/then something evil can come and swipe X's weapons right before the fight xD or you can just making nothing but the X buster harm zerojust make*Thought of both of those. I think thats a lame thing to do honestly.a lot of X bosses pull the latter trickLike?at least for some weaponsOnly one I can think of from the top of my head, is X1 Sigma.hi max maybe?Sorry, X6 hater, so I wouldn't know =(.xDI mostly base everything from X1-X3 xDHabit loli can't think of much cuz i haven't played an x game past the first 8 bosses in a whileaside from MHXAhI do that almost every day @_@>.> it's no wonder that you would get burnt out of MMX at that rateWell I can't keep the engine accurate without playing the original, now can I? xDanyway, from what i gather, you want it to start on a highway and move into a skyscraper at about half-point?Much earlier than half wayokBut ya, that's the right idea =)any elevator rides?Yeah, probably throw in one.okRemember, it's primarily a showcasingSo if you can, include as much as you can without making it clutteredgotchaIce won't be in X demo, so you don't have to worry about thatNeither will water.light/dark area?Still debating on thatconveyors?I'll leave it up to you =Pok x)moving plats? something i notice you haven't added is moving platforms with pathsAlready in the engineah, cool=)I thought ahead for once xDwhat about the moving plats that change status when you jump on them?Change status?like, direction movingOhLike X2yeahNo, I don't have that, but extremely easy to input.coolwe probably wouldn't use it in the demo, but lava and sinking pillars like from flame stag?All up to you. But lava would be a level gimmick I'm missing in the engine =/yeahunderwater tornados/fans, underwater enemies (now i'm just listing everything i can think of xD)Nah, nothing water related for X demorightWhatever we don't use in this demoWill be in the nextwhat about something like sting chameleon swampwaternot in this demo, just bringing up another thing xPNot sure what you mean. Sting Chameleon's swamp is just plain water too =pno way =OUh huh! =Oyou sink really slowly in itand it stunts your jumping and makes you walk slowIn Chameleon? You sure?yep, positiveWell, save it for Zero then.Would make more sense thereyeahUnless you mean put it in the engine.Then plop it in the suggestionshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DACiPFfX8wM 3:26not really a good example cuz he zooms through it with the ride xPbut you can tell it's not the same as normal waterooooooh thatI kept thinkingThe first half of the stageah xDIf you come here before you beat Octopussy, theres a lot of water on the ground.yeah i know itBut ya, my bad. You're right.Wasn't thinking of thatAw man, how come you didn't give me these ideas sooner??? @_@xDAnything else?i forget, did any of the gravity stuff in morph moth's stage effect x's physics?Just a gravity change, nothing major. Engine already allows for variable gravity.okthere's twelve wonderful suggestions for you to look atxDwrote down everything i could think ofooooohMagna CentipedeGood idea*high five*xDGotta increase the size of the gimmick area then.magna centipede also had those collapsing bridges toward the endThat would be the same as falling platformsyeah i supposeom nom chocolate milkYou don't nom milk o.OThat's kinda disgustingcould be frozen >_>Thinking about itIs it?could be.that's all i'm gonna sayUh huh*poke**unpoke self*Just wondering, did you ever bother that spriter friend of yours?i didi don't think he's done anything yet, but i think he intends tooto*OhWasn't expecting you to say thathe says he needs to install photoshop, which he is getting ready to do now, and will start on some sprites for the white highwayAh coolThanksno prawwwwbI was just about to start making something myself xDhahyou can if you want, make it a competitionNo thanks, I'm definitely no spriter.xPhahRandomthat's what you thinkkkyoutube commentFigured thatnew suggestion posted!Theres already a system for that =PAnd I had planned on doing that for the demo xDah i seecoolgood job dragonbro! thinkin' ahead!xDhahaha you're IDLE!Oopsi caught you bread-handedwoahhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=batFqfwVfHU&feature=related look at the highest rated commentthat's crazyIf I thumb down it, does that make me a bad person?...-_-Nevermind, forget I brought it up.it makes you a cold and insensitive person<.<not really x)Song brings memories for me tooNothing sad thoughX2 was my first Megaman game.yeahnice heheCould never beat it though xDyeah, i wasn't much good at MMX when i little eitheri was*eryeah, i wasn't much good at MMX when i was little either***Hehit took me forever to get used to dashing with a and jumping with b xDSame here xDand then trying to fire at the same timeBack then, I didn't use dash at all thoughreally? xDYeahmust've been a painWell I was a kid, I just played the best I could xDwonder what you thought when you got the leg capsule xDD"wtf is this?!? piece of crap!"I dunno if I even got itI remember never being able to beat Violen in X-Hunter stage 1So I would quit and just keep fighting Wheel Gatorlmao xDyeah i think i always went to wheel gator first in X2Yeah, he's easyNow that I know how to play, I always go for Wire Sponge firstSo I can get all the upgrades without backtracking.i seetechnically you can get the buster capsule without air dash, it's just a lot tougherThat's what I dobut i guess not the heartStrike ChainAnd yeah, you can get the heart too =Pi meant you can do it without strike chain tooMe tooYou can get the heart without anything really.We're talking about Wheel Gator's heart, right?when i said you can do it without strike chain, i meant the buster capsuleOhSorryThought you meant the heartnpIt takes some luck to do it that wayyeah, 'tis trickyLolUrge to playthough X2 againxDIf you're not doing anything, care to watch?via what?justin.tvsureAlrightOne sechttp://www.justin.tv/gamedragonLemme know if it's up for youyeah it isk, one secLagging a bit =/yeahOne secAlright, refresh itit's good nowwell, it was xDWhat happened?Still laggy?just a bit yeahnot as frequentI think that's the best I can do unfortunatelydernHungry =(hahathe mavericks won't allow game dragon to eat! >=Onor will the x huntersnor will dr. cainnor will the remnants of zeronor will bubble crab, even though saying mavericks already kinda covered himown himown himown itDamn that jumpLoldidn't even know you could get the heart before the door closesLearn something new everydayStupid pop upsagile will not allow game dragon to get food! >=Owonder what's up with his pointy-tipped saltan shoesIt must be really laggy for you if you're still on Agile >.<I just beat Stag=Oholy whatAnd lol, game buggedi didn't know it could lag like *that*I shot a normal shot while I was fully chargedJust before Stagweird yeah xDso weird, i didn't think it would fall behind like thisi thought it did whatever it had to to keep up in timethe song i was talking about was "Free From the Cocoon"I was supposed to be making a videoah yeah xD doitI'm way too tired now =/noooooIt's your faulthow dare youuuYou made me play X2 >=(pff you volunteered and asked if i would watch xDWell, you brought up >=(i could always make the video xDYou couldBut nahI wanted to talk about the minor things most people don't know aboutLike the slope jumps and double damage buster.dibbadubbahwao.O??... Hungry...get food now!Also, I like your song. It sounds a lot like an ending song.there's no more sigma or zero or x hunters or maverick hunters to stop youNot sure if that's what you were going forhehe well, it is the last song on the album =P so yeah i suppose it wasthanksmaybe if you eat you won't be so tiredRofl, sorry. Opposite xD<.<If I eat, I'll just teleport straight to my bed.hahayou know that makes your digestive acids run into your throat?and can mess with itif you eat right before you sleep xDWhat? Teleporting?OhEatinglmao teleportingI've been doing that for as long as I can remember thoughWhen I eat, I get drowsy.haha, yeahsame here, if i stuff myselfk, I'll work on video as soon as I wake up.Then I'll post up the changelogwewtThen bug fixesawezumBut knowing me, I'll probably only do the first one...<.<so what're you gonna eat?air? cool\hahahaa dragonmade of games=OWhere!?ohi guess i forgotOhOkay thenWorking on video now btw.awzumAs long as that last build took me, I actually don't have much to show xDhahit's cuzza all the weapon ideas that had to be come-up with methinksMajority of the changes I made since my last video were physic basedAnd it's not really too obvious to see the difference in a video.And ya, the weapons took a long time.you didn't have the stage gimmicks in the last one, did you?xDNope, but even then I only have 3 gimmicks in the engine.light/dark, icy slopes, closing walls, conveyor belts4Damn youXDok bbl, dinnarkkbaqckWow, dinner took 3 hours?What'd you eat? The moon?yesssssand it was made of spare ribsAh. Everyone told me it was made of cheese.Liars =(xDI noticed many people skipped the annotations in my last video, so I'm adding in text this time around.So excuse me for not posting the video already.hmm? what do you mean?like adding text into the actual file instead of into youtube?Yeahwhat's the difference, as far as people who watch are concerned?Well, I have a lot to say this time around. I wouldn't like it if people didn't see it just because annotations were off.i seei never turn 'em off xDwhat weirdosturning off annotationsThey're off by default for most people, including me.Some people don't even know the default option exists.Bah, hungry again.HAHAWhy'd you go and eat the moon? =(your video won't let you eatIt's just about doneI tihnkthink*Honestly, the real reason for adding textI got Adobe Premiere and I wanted to toy with it >_>xDI'm wondering if I should put the names of all the weapons in the video.sure why not?Dunno, seems corny.And no one likes your weapon =PNah, I'm kiddingSorry, hunger.=O i never knew you could change the angle of A. ArrowSeriously?you never told mehLmaoThat's the point of the weapon xDThe A. is for Arc.i seeDummy *slap*it doesn't exactly have an arc unless you hold up or downNo, but you're supposed to hold up or down.you hold up and down when you fire other weapons? >.>not exactly habit or instinct for meYeah, Magnet Mine.i'm saying, all other weaponsNo, I don't mean allDuhDummy *slap*i'm just not gonna know about that unless you tell meand its charge doesn't have an arc either xDNo, it doesn't.I'm sorry, I thought you knew. Everyone else seemed to realize it. =(That's why it has a delay before it actually shootsTo give your mind/fingers time to direct it.I used Gravity Beetle theme in the video, and now I kinda regret it =(why xDCause it plays for like 6 minutes, and it's getting kinda annoying.haha yeah, 'tis short loopTell me about it @_@shoulda used jakob remix xDSaving that =Pyayy for windows live saving conversation logs=Pnew suggestionnn requestactuallyThe only way to do that would be to make them float.I got the idea of making them flat from X2's Speed Burner.o.o all i'm suggesting is a minor sprite changei seeI know what you're sayingBut the only way I can think of to make it look decent all around, would be not touching the ground altogether.Or atleast, barely touching.hmm i seeUnless you have a better idea.what if it started on the ground and floated up to a small height above it as soon as it begins its "teleport in" animationSimilar to what I was thinkingcoolso it pretty much just floats up in the same amount of time it takes it to appearVideo is taking forever to upload @_@=Ohow beeg?300-ish i seeyep that'll take a while hehenew suggestionposted!xDOn top of being hard to do, I don't see the point of that. I wanted to keep the option of firing straight as well as being able to offset it's direction slightly.ahh ok xDoh wellLol, all that typing. I was prepared for a wall of text xDwell, i decided to give up hahaAwwI have no problems hearing your debate, if you want to let it out.my reason for constantly suggesting changes to a. arrow and ray c. are because there are already so many straight-firing projectiles, but i guess it's just my own personal pet-peeveI never considered Arc Arrow a straight firing weaponAnd alsoIf it was up to me, you're right, I wouldn't have so many projectile weaponsMost of the weapons came from different people, so it would only be natural they'd conflict.yeahi think there's decent variety in color and "element", and charge attacks evenI kind of forced that.I somewhat feel bad for it.seems to me that a few of them didn't have charge attack ideasThey all didahBut most of the ideas I had to turn down.Not because I didndidn't like them*But because they would take too much time or there was already a similar weapon.yeahConnection pooped on meWhat was the last thing I said?ray c. charge is fairly similar to giga crushYeah"But because they would take too much time or there was already a similar weapon."OhGame Dragon says (2:02 AM): Met Shield's original charge was summoning a met that would fire a giant laser. Just one example. ahi like its current charge way better =PI tried to make them as varied as I could without making the tester angry =(hahaguess i got luckyDesert Hunter had the most changes out of everythingAnd ya, you were the lucky one.Your suggestion was probably the only one that was pretty straight forward.Well noI strayed a bit away from your original suggestions toojust a littlewhat's the helmet do again?Half weapon usage.ah rightBah, I think this upload froze =/i wouldn't doubt ithehSigh, let's try this again then.Wow, it uploaded WAY faster this timehaha is it done?Yeah, it just needs to process now.coolWAHhow long has this hidden heart room been here?? o_oIt's actually a capsule roomCapsules don't show if you're wearing the armor it's associated with.rightExcept during that one bug.You know the one =pwewt hehei don't think i know that one bugWhen you die, and the capsule is still there.ah rightare all four capsules hidden in the beta test stage?Yeah=ONEW MISSION, START!!I was gonna mention that in the changelogBut I never got around to doing itxD;-;UnfortunatelyThere's only one more room to findThe last two capsules are in the same roomi seeI ran out of space to put the last =(how'd you run out of space o_OLayout-wise, I had no place to put it.I wanted all the capsules to be after Rock.i seeNo worries, I'll be moving them eventually.Just a temporary placementkkLol, your reaction to the room made me giggleVideo is uphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihaKLtHG3j0Bah, Youtube butchered the framerate.what's new ehHungry again =(=DThat a good or bad thing?hah, you couldn't see the red effect on arc arrow charge cuzza framerate xPYeah xDIn the actual video, you could see it just fine..Stupid YouTube =(I hate youoh now i'm youtube?Yepi just noticed, you have X doing the post-teleport "armor activate" animation even when he has no armorYou brought this up alreadyAnd I also explained it already.oh xDsorryHe does that even when he doesn't have armor. Look at X4.looks like you fixed the vertical pixel offset on moving platformsYeah, it was a simple mistake on my part.=PHmm, just noticed I never posted on RockmanpmI'll fix thatyou should use the little hidden combination of X + X2 capsule themes as your capsule theme =PPardon?=Odidn't you know how they stack coherently on top of eachother to make one complete tune?Nothey really do hahaAhNeatyusProve it then! >=(xD okthe room with two capsules reminds me of the two capsules in storm owl's stage xPxDhaha "... With this, the situation would be improved. (Just because I needed another screen of words to say.)"should be*That's actually from X3 xDi see hahathe capsule animation seems very finnickymost of the time it goes on extra long for meEh?causes a lot of lag and stuffThe framerate drops?yeahTo what number?how do you show debug again?F1to 20, at its worst e_eand then rises back up at the end of the animationmost of the time it's around 25 - 30Ah, damnduring the animationare each of those beam particles their own like instance or something?Yeahi seethis is really bizarre xDTimes like this, I'm glad and angry I have you.hahahaI would never be able to tell these framerate problems if you didn't complain about them.But then again, you give me soooo much damn work to do @_@I hate youi'll take that as a compliment for a QA tester >=Pso the bizarre thingYeahi got frozen in the capsule (see latest bug report) and now, self-destructing freezes me in the hurt sprite, and debug teleports make the jumping noise and revert me to standing sprite xDDThe ice physics thingy isn't actually a bugbut it's really annoying D:It's normal though.but it doesn't make sense >_<None of the ice physics make sense.having them influence you while you're not touching the ice anymore makes even less senseThink of it as if you "slipped" offThen it makes a bit more sense.but sometimes i purposely walk off >:Iand it makes equally less sensexDAh okay walkingThat's a bit differentChange that to when "walking or dashing"When you just "fall" off, you're supposed to still have the ice physics.gotcharead the seventh bug downRandom question, but do you like Blizzard Buffalo's theme?I makes my head hurt @_@XDIt*yes, i actually doAhI hate you more theni know a lot of people that dislike it hahaIt almost doesn't sound like music imoo_OlmaoJust long stretches of sound, one after another.probably cuz the beat's not very engagingjust slow and steadyThere's a beat? =OXD yesmostly cymbals and tomsoh yeah, do you pan sounds according to which side of the screen they come from? like if an enemy fires something and they're to the far right of XHey, I need a favor of you when you get back or have time.amback"oh yeah, do you pan sounds according to which side of the screen they come from? like if an enemy fires something and they're to the far right of X"Noyou know the original games do that right?To my knowledge, that's not possible with MMFi seeAnd no, I didn't. I never paid any attention.haha xDBut I don't doubt you on thatso what favor did you need me to executePerformance test with capsules.figured, sureNow or later?any tiiiimeAlright, give me a few minutes.kI'm gonna disable the bubble effect first.you mean the little power beams?Yeahb034p_1.exeGame Dragon sends b034p_1.exeI'm fairly sure you'll still get frame rate issues with thatC:\Users\Velicopteur\Documents\My Received Files\b034p_1.exeYou have failed to receive file "b034p_1.exe" from Game Dragon.behkvirus scanner thingthat i don't haveit requires me to scan if i'm going to accept the filei know the security risks, let me do what i want you messenger face >:Ihttp://www.mediafire.com/?dz2dog1tkhmthanksit actually still lags almost just as much o_OYeah, I thought soi'm guessing it might have to do with the fast pallette changesYep, it is.what if you had a stand-in sprite(s) for X with the correct pallette just appearing and disappearing instead?That's what I'm about to do.gotcha=Phttp://www.mediafire.com/?f1j1hvlqzayNo palette changes, but with bubbless'goodno issuesFull speed then?Coolslight drops at one or two spots, but only by about 5 fps and it doesn't last much longer than a split secondso, not noticeableHmm alrightDoes the thunder still desync on that one?I'm pretty sure that's just a framerate issueyeah that's all it wasCool, then I'll get on fixing this capsule.Might take awhile though.entering capsules from the right side gives X a bad offset by a few pixelsleft side seems fineYa, I think you posted thatHaven't noticed it myself, but you're likely right.When I was making the capsules, I did everything from the left side.figured that was the case =PSo I just assumed everything was right on the opposite side.Stop figuring stuff >=(xDWhat size do you normally play at?2xHmmYou notice everything no one else can see. I figured you had yours on atleast 3xisn't that the highest?I mean, somethings I catch tooBut you're on a whole different level xDoh right, there's full screen toohahai guess, having programmed a fair share of games and stuff myself, i may know more of what to look for, and why stuff might be how it is just from experienceshruggashruggashrugOr maybe you're just not human, Mr. Moon Eater.=OxDwhat if that moon was the face-moon from majora's maskmy stomach would be suffering a slow deathOh, then please. Eat it.That thing scares me to death.yeah xDJust sitting in the skyWatchingPlotting>=DScaryI'll work on that tomorrow, headache =/D:i never get those evil thingsLucky, I get them pretty often =/i'm eating good food, muahaha=Paren't you jealous?Normally, but not nowdidn't you suddenly become hungry?gasp =O=PBrb, rebootinghaha funny showdame gargonHey, can ya test in a bit?i can test in a blitzYay you're alivehe is hereeethe guy that is meeeHi guywhoa joeYour nitpicking helped me fixed three issues =)dunununnnWell, atleast two. I dunno if the slowdowns still happen.I doubt it thoughi seeeFour issues*le gaspissue identification requestedHmm lets seeWell theres the slowdowns. That's one.Then theres the position issue when entering from the right.rightThird was the capsule palette and X palette not syncing up.Not sure if you noticed that.Probably not, considering how fast they flicker.yeah, a little hard to tellFourth was capsules completely destroying Soul Body's palette for some reason.http://www.mediafire.com/?gz0kclgxjcnJust performance check please.ah, how strange?OhYeahStrangeI always knew what the issue was, but I had trouble going about fixing it.works perfect, no framerate issues=POkay coolSo I have to avoid changing the palette a lotSighThankfully, I can't think of any othe situations I would need to.yusMeh, whatever. Moving on. You gave me too much work to do.XD yayyHeyMeh, anyway. I just wanted a confirmation to ease my restlessness. Is that buddy of yours still working on some tiles? I believe I fixed most important non-weapon related bugs that's been posted, so I think it's ready. I want to get this thing out as soon as possible.bonsoir!Oh haimy friend hasn't started yet because he's a lazy procrastinationfaceAh =(his main excuse is that photoshop isn't installed... but it was the same last time i asked him >_>Right now I'm trying to get as much things done as possible for this demoCome September, I won't have as much free time, so I want to get it out before then if possible.I have HyperKenny working custom sprites for Zero.yeah=O i know that guykindaAzu working on additional enemies. Though I haven't asked him about that in a whilecoolYou working on the level design. I hope.Your mysterious friend with the tileset.yeah, i'll get some good progress done on it soon tonightAnd me fine tuning this stupid engine.xD issnot stupidxDYeah, I really need help at this point >.<yo need help like a newborn whelpxDe_eyou know what mIRC is?YepWhy?just wondering if you ever chat on irc serversNope, never.haha lamei don't either though, really xDI've been on IRC rooms, but it's just not my type =Pbecause they're big group chats?or just how basic it isNeither necessarilyhmmmmI "guess" you could say it's because of group chats.I never spend my time just talking.It would be even more time consuming talking to multiple people.yeahHard to multi-task that wayI'm wondering if I should do those level gimmicks before the Ride Armor..gevel limmickswasn't ride armor going to be in zero demo?I meant after the demo.The X demogotchayayy random new weapon idea xDyoHey therei talked to my friend seriously, and he admitted that although he wanted to try it, he's probably never going to get around to doing that sprite sheet because he's a jerk with no self-control who's addicted to TF2 -_-;thus, you'd best move on without waiting any longerAh, alright thenNo biggie, glad you let me know.x)That gives me something to do, finallyalso, i thought of a couple things you haven't quite put into your engine (i don't think)Kenny's been working on Zero's sprites. He's extremely quick. o.OAlmost half donehehei'm sure he's used to itYeahI see that o.OxDSo, the things you thought up?Ah damn, just realized that gives me less time to work on new enemies.first of those things is vertical doors, and the latter is proper boss entry and defeat proceduresDefeat procedures as in?i.e. boss doors, the whole music fade and door close noise + boss music starting up and boss taunt+energy fill, then defeat as innn just the teleport out and weapon get screen i suppose xD maybe not so much defeatBoss entry is in btw.Just missing the door soundi seeWell, I have the sound, just not in the engine.hahaand there's the opening sound as wellAnd no weapon get screen xDThere is?yepFor boss doors?it goes "teek teek teek!"as the thing spinsIs it the same sound as normal doors?nopeAh okayMissing that theni mention the weapon get screen cuz there's that whole bit where X teleports in and demonstrates the weaponsI'm not really sure if I'll do that.Something like that would need to be hard coded.wouldn't it be similar to the post-capsule demos?Not necesarilyhhhhhmwoah, not only are you game dragon...but you're THE game Deeeeeeragonnnn!o.O*announcer voice*xDamirite?who programed u?he must b a jennusMy mommy did<.<she*=Pniiiiiiice xDLittle Whittling Kid, oh Little Whittling Kidddwhittle that wood into a wooden car hoooodmake it alright, yeah strike up a fright!High again I seewhy does everyone think it's high-ness...you don't have to be high to be strange or differentNah, you're definitely highGotta be-.-;xDhigh on what, water vapor?Is that what they call it now?i just took a shower.Ahbooks in the nooks of the night!pillowy towers, alright!entire castles made of kytes!o.Othat light on your tongue is too bright!k *cuts off*)=Better?but game dragon... there once was a man named dwight >.<;he asked for your forgiveness with a plight!!I cut off my tongue, what more do you want!?won't you forgive that man tonight?oh sorry, soupouchtongue = gone?!*nod*if(subject.tongue == gone) repair(tongue,subject.id,10);thar goi wrote you a fixIt didn't work>=(*nails your tongue back on to the back of your mouth*Ah thanks='Dbrbkthxsleepbai =O *is sucked into a spiral*yo, yo, dockta townshend!YobreowwwI started a mockup of the beginning portion of the demostration levelI don't think it's very good at all, but I'm not sure how much better I can do xDOne sechttp://imgur.com/LdFTk.pngoh sweetthat's actually pretty niceYou think so?I don't like ityus, it all looks pretty goodi think it's not completely mmx style (the background) but it could definitely pass as professional or near-proffesional quality spriting imoI just need to use better colors for it.Either brightening the buildings in the foreground, or darkening the ones in the back.Hmm, now I need to mock up the tower section toofound some bugs foar yewwwwAh thank you. My bug list missed you.xDmostly weapon bugs, but two that weren'tnot exactly, anywayCan you describe the aftercharge bug a bit more?xDthe SFX just doesn't play at allNever?nopeDid you try restarting it?the game?Yeahyeah it's definitely not playin'Ah weird you're right. It works in the MMF build, but not in the actual executable for some reason.strangeI'll try to fix that next build.okidokehaha what a retarded phrase.=PAh, I see where the problem is alreadygoood gooodHey, did you notice any slowdowns with enemies in b034.You were always the one getting the most slowdowns, so I figured I should asknope, no slowdowns to reportnope, no slowdowns to reportAh okay, thanks a lot.oh you bet your banks on the shoreUmmm, kof the game dragon riverHey, did you ever start that level layout thingy?Not in any rush or anything. Just wondering if you still wanted to do it.*poke* =(yes, i do intend to do and finish it, and i have begun, but it's not really far enough to be worth sending to ya yet =PNot a problemWas just curious, thats allit's your engine, you have every right to know about anything related to it xD=PWhen you finish the beginning portion of the level, can you send me that please?I want to atleast get some of it done before the end of the monthshoreYo, random questionFor your Jakob elevator mixDid you use X1 instruments?x3 mostlyAhHate X3 instruments for the most part, but you used it very wello_O why's that?why you hateI can't really explainat least i think they're x3, might be x2pretty sure there's no x1 among themAh kkbut even that could be wrong...EVERYTHING'S A LIEEE=Ohahaha http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/08/22/rockman-x6-prototype-escapes-containment/Ooooh TyHeyWhen you're not busy, can I get you to do a performance test for me?dragon made of games, it's a dragon made of gaaaamesyeah sure any timeHey, you still avaliable?alwayzzwhat's up?Trying to change something on enemy spawning, that could potentially add more lag.Actually, what's your PC specs?2.20 ghz dual core processor, 2 gb of ram, 64-bit windows 7Okay, one secTrying to upload nowGonna have to send through MSNerr why?can you e-mail it?Not able to upload on my usual sites for some reasonAnd mediafire is downb035p.exeGame Dragon sends b035p.exeC:\Users\Velicopteur\Documents\My Received Files\b035p.exeYou have failed to receive file "b035p.exe" from Game Dragon.Bah I got completely distractedTrying to send nowDamnit, no .exeSent itNvm. Delivery failed >_>Wtf is up with my connectionhttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=V8ZS3KHS password is rockoncoo thanksTheres a few new enemies in that, placed in mostly random placesBut I just need a performance testyou know if you ever want ftp space you can access from anything@decidel.net, any time xPcoolAh, thats greater, anything.decidel.net** xDWell I don't need it atm, but I'll likely need it later xDI'll let you knowaight hahahaha nice, some new-ish mechanics in thereno slowdowns yet until i reached 8-bit MMhe has some at seemingly semi-random moments, most notably when rush is around or when he's charging his busternever drops below 50, but is noticeableI might be able to fix thatWas it always like that?don't think soAlrightminer enemy worked fineturtle did too except no animation when it's hitYeah, most of the enemies are unfinishedMostthere's a big issue when recovering health while showing the hurt animationNot that big, but kinda difficult to fixi think it's kinda big xD made the game freeze for up to like 7 seconds at a timeUnless you mean something elseOh, nah it doesn't always do thatThats completely randomif you say so, but it was happening every timeStill?yeahWhen you say "hurt" animation, you mean when you're health is low?Or when you get hit by an enemywhen you get hit by an enemyIt's not happening for meWhat's your FPS right now?then i guess it's just during the MM battleOhThatYeah, THAT happens during the Rock fighthahaAlwaysnever ran into it beforeIt's always been like thatbug: entering a capsule freezes projectiles on-screenPost it when you get a chance so I can rememberActually nvm don'tyeah xD was gonna sayyess the firetruck guys hahasuch random enemiesthose guys arek fixed thatFiretrucks? Those look nothing like firetrucks xDcoolwell they're red and have guns on the frontso... that's what they've always been in my head xDFiretrucks have giant guns on the front?Since when?lmfaolike a futuristic firetruck or somethingLmaowhatever they are, they're weirdRandom, but I was thinking of recoloring that and maybe a few enemies for demoLike a blue car maybeor purple =Ook, big slowdowns in the enemy roompretty much alwaysOkhaha, i'm all for recolorsOne more testand the blue volt guys coolarrow-dashed into a vertical moving plat and got to "stand" on the sidex's foot was at the bottom of the platform, but he was going up and down with itI'm assumingThe enemy room didn't lag for you in b034?nopeOh, I changed the collision on platforms a bit.I'll fix that laterokhttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=RWH9DM1Ualso, pickups seem to occasionally get jittery while on vertical moving plats, i'm sure that's part of the same thingPickups need to be entirely redoneI'll get fixed before the build is donecooJust tell me if that file lags tooI doubt it willkkmm classic is fine nowi didn't stick around to look, but it looked like the low health animation was still active when i respawned after dying at megamanYou sure? That's really unlikelyEverything resets after dyingthere's still a little slowdown in the enemy room, but it's mostly all betterthe most was near the bats it seemed like (yay bats!)What is the FPS overall?around 30 at the lowest35*Ouchbut usually 40- 55could just be the sheer number of enemies on screen/in the roomYeahGonna have you do one more test, but a bit later. I'm gonna change around some things to optimize.kk coolHmm, that went by faster than I thoughtxD?The optimizingWell, I think I did itCan't really tell myself. I never get slowdowns xDhahaniceYay Mediafire is back upSigh... nvmxDhttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=8P9JWQP6Hopefully thats goodah yeah much betterhaha it's fun pwning megaman with double busterLolDid you check the enemy room yet?yeahit's all goodFPS?60 solidOkay coolI can do more optimizing if need bethere was one small bleep to 55 but it was a mere fraction of a secondnot noticeableOkay coolif you keep firing uncharged shots after double buster on megaman, you can pretty much pwn him into infinite hurt animationnot a bug, just something funny you can doLol, I would call that a bugwell i mean you have to keep firing to keep him in the hurt anim xDGonna take a break from enemies for me. Once I fix the pickup collision, I'm gonna work on the first portion of the demo level a bit.So this build might not be up for a bitIronically, I fixed my other issue with my optimizing.Burst Missile not being able to hit more than one enemy simultaneouslyhaha awesomeHey, did you ever start that level layout?yeah but i haven't done much with it yet =\HmmWell, whenever you have time I need thatI'm working on the demostration level atmgotcha, alright theni'll try to at least put a little more in firstNot rushing you or anything of courseJust need to make sure you're still awareyeah i am=PLolgamedragon gamedragon game dragonnnnn!!!REJOICE!!! http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/09/29/mega-man-legends-3-announced-for-nintendo-3ds/Oh wow, thanks for thatI wasn't a Legends fan until recently, but I knew this had to come somedayBut I find it a bit supiscious that it's called Megaman Legends 3 Project and not Rockman Dash 3 Projectit is called Rockman Dash 3 Project in Japan, duhr xDhttp://www.capcom.co.jp/rockman/dash3/in biiiig letters on the main japanese site =Pyou should know that this is how it's been with all megaman titles to date except universeAh okay, I wasn't aware their was japanese project pageObviously, I thought they were using the same project name in both US and JapanXIV? FFXIV? XDif so, that stuff is dangerous mansuper addictivegood luck escaping its wrath =P"XIV?"Final Fantasy XIV?Yesthat stuff is dangerous man xDsuper addictiveLolgood luck escaping its wrath =PYeah, I've been playing it since Maypart of the beta test group?Well I haven't been playing lately. School and allYeahme too, but i don't have any computers that can run itttt >>:IAh >.<my computers aren't that old eitherit super sucksRuns pretty poorly on my PC too. And I have pretty good specsyou'd think they'd cater to people with lower specs, to get more people to playYeah, but I guess thats what the PS3 version is forAnd honestly, right now it's not in a very playable statewhy's that? isn't it publicly released now? >.>YeahBut the launch peroid for any MMO are usually badThis one more than othersi seei played FFXI around when it first came out, most addicted i've ever been to any game xDi'd probably still be playing if it didn't cost so muchAh really?yeahXI was pretty bad on launch too =PhahaNot to say I didn't enjoy myself. With either gamesXI only got better has it got older, and I'm sure XIV will do the sameyeahthe OST is part of what really drew me in with XIhad a unique sound to it, as i recallXIV's OST is great aswell =)sweetoh, do you know what MMX: Corrupted is?Of coursehahaits creator just held a livecast earlier todayi should've told you about it =XHaha, probablyxDit's looking pretty sweetlots of new stuff, both subtle and not so subtleand played a bunch of the OST at the end, including tracks that will be cut from the final releaseAh neathe said he'll do more livecasts in the futurei'll be sure to tell you about the next, if you don't hear about it firstkkit seems strange that TMMN hasn't done any articles on MMXCAre you sure?well, i don't think soit seems about as legit as Mega Man 8-Bit Deathmatch, and they've done articles on thatWell for one, MMXC isn't out or playabletrueAnd 8-bit DM was featured at Screwattack Game Conventionah xPthat's certainly bound to get it more attentionYeah, definitelyThough I'm sure most at MMN still know of MMXCprobablyI need to get this demo level out so I can get some attention too xDhahaha yeahbtw how's that going? do you want me to just pwn that and get a bunch done tonight? cuz i can >=Dor have you gone ahead and done a bunch of design already?No, I haven't touched itDesign wisehaha okBut the tiles and everything are somewhat doneoh yeah? have you been doing that yourself?Yeah, that's why I say "somewhat"niceIt's pretty half assed imoxDbetter than nothingJust been working on this set of enemiesAlmost doneIf you feel you can mash up a level tonight, then go right ahead =PThe sooner the betterwewtalso, haw: http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/10/03/the-story-of-rockman-online/Copies of X, Zero, ... and Duo?Why such a random choice?i know xDi guess they needed a heavy-type characterTheres heavy characters in the X timeline they could have usedbut not really any heroesMassimo *nod* and that would have gave them a different color instead of two blue heroesah right, THAT gamexDLolSo we only have 3 choices of characters?character "types," i guessWouldn't it be better to create our own reploid?Like out of preset partsLike Custom Robo or somethinghahaI meanmaybe that's how they'll treat the armor partsI'd rather not see 9000 X's running aroundyeah xDany way i can see the tiles so i know what kinds of measurements i can go by?eh?bonjourrrok some basic questionsi'm sure we've been over these before but just to be safe xPi'm assuming you want the majority of level gimmicks you've created so far in the stage, i.e. moving platforms both ways, conveyor belts, an elevatoryou wanna list all you want used?also, did we decide to put a full-armor capsule somewhere about half way through the stage?do you want the stage to begin basic like an intro stage to a true game, i.e. start with walking, then shooting, then jumping, then wall climbing, etc.?or would you prefer it goes more quickly into a stage layout that requires slightly more experienceSorry, you there?yeahI fell asleep =Phahahaha what a loser xDLolj/kOne sec while I cycle through this list of questionskkOkaySo we talked about how theres two parts of the level essentially. Outside in the city and inside of some tower-ish building, right?For now, I only need you to focus on the outside section. It's a strict horizontal layout similar to X1 or X5.The main tiles are 64x16 in sizethe ones for the highway?Yeahthat short? o_oIs that short?16?In widthoh, you flipped the dimensionsxDDid I? oopsi was like uwutOh you're right, I didMy badhaha it's cool16x64ok goodUm, this part of the level doesn't need many gimmicksPossibly none at all. I'll leave that up to youAs for the list of gimmicks itself. For now, you can use anything you can think of, even if it's not in the engine yet.Next build is focused solely on level gimmicks, so there will be much more available by the time the demo is doneyeah okdoes the highway have slanted pieces?Yeahwhat's the slope?Looks like 30, but I'm not too sure30? i mean what's the ratio3:!?3:1*Hmm, that I wouldn't know. I'll try to show you itokhttp://imgur.com/988Ej.pngah good, as i thought2:1that support beam can go under any part right? just needs at least 1 left and 1 right above it?Not sure what you meannvm i think it's cool xDkkooh and i get to use falling breakable partswoothahasee i need to know these things =PWell I told you, you're not limited to anything at this point =PyahAnything else before I dissapear for the rest of the day?nah i'm goodthankshehe http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/10/04/detailed-rockman-online-blog-info/yoHeyabout how long do you want the highway part?Hmm, I can't give a definite answer for thatrelative to X1's intro stage?A bit longer than thatah okNot too much longerThe highway will be about 1/3 of the leveland how wide do you want the tower to be?use this as a reference if you want http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/MegaManX-Highway.pngThe thing is, the tower will likely have a ton of gimmicks placed inThe gimmicks themselves need room, and then there needs to be room to seperateTheres no real width is my point =Pi seeAgain, I'll leave it up to you for the most partkkwould you prefer that the player entered the tower from the side, or i was thinking possibly from below?From the sideAtleast for Xokone last idea: is it alright if i make it look like a multi-layered highway where certain parts have collapsed on top of lower layers?Not followinglike, several vertical layers of highway beneath one anotherI *think* I see what you meanxD i'll just show you what i have when it's ready and change if you need me toHmm okaytell me whatcha thinkif you're therexDOne seckkkI'm a bit confused on the thingy on the top left cornerxD it's a bunch of destroyed highway partsIn the sky? o.Oi'd put supports for it below, but that'd block X's pathI expected it to be a bit smaller height-wise, this highway is super destroyed xDhaha yeahi can re-do anything, no worriesI'm not completely sure yetas i'm sure you can tell, the red parts would be falling broken roadI'm liking this design more than what I had in my headYeah, I got that =Pk xDThis is pretty good, but I'm definitely going to have to lower some thingsand obviously at the end, you enter the side of the buildingokalso i compared it to X1 highway, it should be right about the same length as that whole map including its boss areaAhOh, you can still add on to that if you'd like.The main reason I said it should be longer than X1's intro, is because of the dashingyou want it longer?Not too sure yet. Sometime this week I'll throw everything together and test the length.alrightyBut looking at it, it seems X1 length like you saidWhich may possibly be too short if you take dashing into considerationrightthe terrain is also more challenging overall, as may be the enemiesYeah, I'm thinking of that as wellThat's why I need to give it a proper test before I really say anythingaye ayeyou know what minecraft is?Yacan you explain it to me plz?Not reallyjust kidding xDI haven't played it myselfi seeshame=Phttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hd8WfoTNhUyooohopeneyes=PBuild should be done by now, but I got lazy =PTomorrow likelyi'm guessing there'll be one more build for the testers before you release the demo?One or twook cooNext build is all level gimmicks, most I'm sure will be in the demonicelooking forward to it 8DGreathttp://www.minecraftforum.net/download/file.php?avatar=67621_1286391261.pngrecognize?HeheYup=P that's my custom avatar skin in minecrafthow fitting eh? he even uses a pickaxe in the game he comes from ;POh? AwesomeStill need to try that outhahayou'll probably get addicted at first, if you get around to itHahadid you see this? vhttp://www.capcom-unity.com/mikeeb13/blog/2010/10/10/vote_for_your_favorite_design_in_the_mega_man_legends_3_heroine_contest!Page not foundohcuz you have to paste it into the browser, think link in the messenger is excluding the !Ah, I got it anyway. It was on the frontpageah ok xPso did you place a vote?Not yetsameGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUhttp://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/10/11/hidden-level-editor-discovered-in-mega-man-xx3/ !!!!!!!Awesome, and Xeeynamo was working on one from scratchto use on roms?Yesnicei just defeated blast hornet with a ride 8DVideo or it didn't happeni don't have anything to record with =\Lies then=\=Plink me a good video recorder and i shallHypercamAssuming you're playing on emulator, SNES9X has built in oneZSNES winsso therexDZSNES has built in tooJust more complicatedi don't think it actually exports to a movie filedoes it?That's the complicated partxDScreenshot or something will doBut I gotta go in like 40 secsBuild is up btw if you haven't got it yetschweetIt's not much unfortunately, but progress is progressI:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\ZSNES and Games\Mortal Kombat 2.zipNicholas Seron sends I:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\ZSNES and Games\Mortal Kombat 2.zipwtf xDI:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\ZSNES and Games\MegaManX3.zmvNicholas Seron sends I:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\ZSNES and Games\MegaManX3.zmvi think that should be the right fileso if you have zsnes and an x3 romput that in the same folder as the rom and it should be movie 0I:\Decicomp Backup Q2-10\G\ZSNES and Games\MegaManX3.zmvTransfer of "MegaManX3.zmv" is complete.lmfao, if you don't have the cheats i was using it plays out completely differently XDYeah, I figured thatSeems to be working thoughonly cheat used was 7E0CEFFFwhich is infinite ride healthAhYeah, ride armor is dead hereBut proof nonethelessyeah and then i diehahano really you should watch it, if you have time, with infinite ride healthkk, I gotta run. I gotta wake up in 3 hours >.<dang =OokLatersee yaAnd don't spam my bug list like you always do >=(look forward to it ;Dhahahaon the title screen X fires the X3 charge shotbut he doesn't actually have that in-gameYa he doesman you haven't bothered to fix any of the weapon bugs huh?I said I wouldn'toh?ok"There are still numerous weapon related bugs, but unfortunately, I do not plan to fix them for sometime now."Weapons won't be in the demo. Not a priority atm.Build 037 will be when they are fixedokreally, 4 are mostly just fine, and the other 4 have multiple issues xDShut up >=(hey i'm just glad that mine is one of the first four =Plaser guys not working yet?from kuwanger'sThey work fineer...Er what?they aren't doing anything >.>there are no red lasersThere should be o.Oand no reaction when i walk between the circlesCircle?the silver ballsthat the lasers appear betweenHmm, one secWorking fine for me, lasers and everythingTry restarting itDid that work?yeah, strangely xDdoesn't really make sense why but okYeah, sometimes random "one time" bugs pop up*shrug*trying to remember where that last enemy is fromthe bug that fires bombsChill Penguin and Intro Highwaynooothat's not in your engine o_OEh?plus, those drop deerballsnot bombsxDoh waithmYou're talking about the yellow bee, right?yeahi remember chill penguin instance nowbut not intro highwayChill Penguin and Intro HighwayIt's thereWhen the floor starts collapsingAbout 2 of themi seemust've been briefIt isso their bombs don't destroy on contact?Nopethey'd be best used along with an enemy that keeps you preoccupied in one spot thenlike the turtles or blue laughing guysYeah, I didn't want to put too many enemies close togetherI felt they were already way too closehahai think, if level design mattered here, they'd be too evenly-distributedTheres 6 bees in the intro stage. Just counted =PLevel design will be changing next buildmehA lotyeah i know, just thinking about itSo I didn't care much for the enemy placement this time aroundYou know? I don't recall telling you that =POr telling anyone for that matterMind reader =Owell, if you're going to put a bunch of level gimmicks inyou kinda either have to add a bunch of space, or change what's therelogical conclusion no?I would think the more logical was to change just the gimmick area of the engineThough I won't be doing thatbut then it'd be super crowded with gimmicks hahaStill gonna be super crowded with gimmicks =P=\i'm scared for your level-design safetyDon't worry, it won't be that badNot gonna do anything hazardous like I did this designi guess since we aren't making a real game or anything, it's not that big of a deal =Pi seeI think I told you before why I set everything up the way I didIt was mostly progressional testingI think we're out of those woods nowSo I'll work up a more suitable testing enviromentsweetfresh air 8Dto follow along with your smehnonymHahaSmehnonym?yeah i couldn't think of the right wordso i made one upok ok the word was analogy xDLolxDRandom, but neat thing with the lasers, they can be used for other things than just the Ray enemiesLike tripping traps or somethingI didn't do anything like that, but it's certainly already possibleyou just mean that you can have them created from different points?Yeah, it's not enemy specificcooand, in the next build, can you please use some different music? 0=)It could be used similar to the spotlights in Magna Centipede's stageHmmI was thinking that, but then I was like "... Meh">.>Is the music bad?it's justthe same music that's been there for foreverand on top of that very short-loopingIf I do change the music, it's still gonna be from an X gamei knowSo I can't really change the loopingyou can always use the Jakob Elevator remix >.>Your song already has a special placeunless you plan to use it for something else in the future, i don't see why notTheres a level dedicated to it =Po_OI thought you knew thatnot really xDThat was for the demo level =PI already put it in and everythingoh =O i thought you wanted to use something else for iti seecoolnessNah, that was the reason for it =PokTaking me awhile, but I had this planned for a long timedoes it loop ok?Unless you want to make another track, by all means, go ahead =PThe file you sent me didn't loop too good, so I had to edit it a bit myselfBut it's finei'll probably try my hand at a battle theme for the fightcooleventuallyAh cooland maybe a new song for zero's demoDefinitely need a new song for thatyeahNot sure if I talked to you about this, but there will likely be two fights in the demonope xDWellThey're both ZeroIt's just the second one is only accesssible after a certain condition. To give people more of a reason to actually play more than oncehmm i seeEither by time or by damageI'll think of that laterLittle extra dialog, different ending. Stuff like thatWhen I say ending, I don't mean anything big =Pok hahaProbably the wrong word actually, but yeah.did you decide to skip sleep? xDLooks like itlmaoyo gonna be dead todaymorrowYeah, and I'm gonna be out all day =/what for?School =Pah xDsuckss14 hours @_@what??Yep xDof school? O_0Yawtf hahais that 14 hours all classes?Nahok good xDBut I need to be in the school during that timeyeahi've had similar schedules thenAh really?yeahIt's a nightmare @_@i mean i didn't *have* to be there, but i usually stuck around when i had anywhere from 1-3 hours between classesThat's my case, but I don't have anywhere else to go xDNot like I can go home. I live 2 hours awaydang yeahin my case it was usually pointless to go home during those breaks, but i could if i wanted toAhbut there were definitely people like you there, students from all over the state go to the school i was in and it doesn't have any dorms or anythingcould you stand and climb on the laser enemies in kuwanger's stage originally?Yuphow jollyAlso Hadoken and Shoryuken for Build 037But sssh, don't tell anybodylmao when time is frozen they still fire lasers, but the lasers don't move=OLolwill they be the same?I didn't do any of these enemies with weapons in mind, but that an easy fixGood question, I'm not sure yetit'd be cool if, when your health wasn't full but you had a full e-tank, either one of those would use the e-tank to execute *and* fill your health at the same timesub-tank*What if you did it by accident?yeah right xDi could barely do it on purposeLolyou don't regularly press down or up unless you're on laddersLikely gonna give Zero those two tooneaTI was thinking of something a bit differentLowering the power for those two moves, and give X a chargable HadokenAnd Zero a chargable ShoryukenNot sure how familiar you are with Street Fighter, but it's supposed to be reminescent of Ryu and Kenchargeable? charge, down+right+release?Otherway aroundyeah of course i knkow that muchDown+Right, hold buttonwould it freeze you in place then while you charge or something?Yeahi seeGive it a slight balance imoJust an idea. Not sure if I'll go with that thoughSo if you want a music change, give me your votesGimme 3hmmmokNothing?locatingNot even 1 yet? o.OXD my inner opinions are boilingI don't wanna die of old age herelmaolet me get some watermaybe that'll unfreeze my brainLet's hope sook, you've heard my MIDI album "Spring-Alongs & Guillotines" right?Yamaybe one from that?cuz i redid 3 in MMX styleWell I was thinking primarily X1-X3 =PYeah, I remember thatokBut I doubt I'll be changing the music again, so if I do decide to use your tunes, it'll be in the public buildoklet me look at some classic MMX candidatesThat's up to youwire sponge...kkAnymore?yeahpossibly x1 sigma stage 2Was gonna use that one originally, but opted for Sigma 1i seeand i'm gonna send you two other originals i've done in X style to see if you like eitherkkhttp://64.126.58.25/vibeshack/play/index.php?ssid=f90e91a0c127468fc4237f711ec5d749&oid=6562&uid=2&name=/Unknown%20%28Orphaned%29%20-%20Keinemas%27%20Theme.mp3does that work?Yacoolso that'n, orhttp://64.126.58.25/vibeshack/play/index.php?ssid=9a06ab2a9565f5cd9d6cc0e85a164144&oid=6664&uid=2&name=/Robo%20Go%20-%20Renstadt%27s%20Theme%20%28MMX%29.mp3Not sure if the first one really fitsyeah xPI really like the second one though, but you need to up the tempo =Phehehok, i might try to revisit the project file for that one thengive it MMX drums (it has MIDI drums right now) and try to do more with percussion overallIf you wanna utilize your talents, I would say we need a boss theme more than anything atmyeahwhat, you saying i'm not a talented level designer? >=INah, you stinkdaaaangdas lowSmelly *nod*xD*sinks into the depths of smellbadia*Kidding of courseBrb phone o.Oo.othat's really weirdHmm, hung upthey need you to come to school EARLIERxDLolk, I should really try to get SOME sleepok hahayou do thatLolLaterdudegot to where i'm in a ride, firing weapons and using the ride weapons at the same timeSay what?you herrrrd mewhen you say weapons, you mean buster weapons?yeahHaha, neat=Pdid you ever vote on a legends 3 heroine design?Forgot about thatI'll do that tomorrowhahai tried to sign up for a capcom unity account to vote, but i got the recaptcha word confirmation wrong three times and now it won't let me >:IAhsome letters in that are impossible to readyooooYoSup?Nothing? That's cool, that's coolsorry xDi'll brb in a sec*nod*beikHiheysupNothing reallysounds phun=Pyesss the heroine i voted for is on top 8Dnihahabest choice is best choice=Pdid you vote?No, I couldn't remember my login and was too lazy to make a new onehahakk, I'm off. Bedtimepeatsdude hahahahahahttp://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/Flame-G102/Stolen%20BLEEP%20images/10630872.jpg gotta see thatHoly crap, I never knew you could aim Acid Bomb in X3omgXDthat's funnyNo it's not!ok it's sad>=(D=Oh, quick questionAwhile back, on the suggestion page you mentioned something about the blocks in Magna Centipedes levelThough I just noticed theres two types of blocks therei meant the large sliding ones mostly, i thinkThe ones at the beginning of the level?Hmm, okaygirbobblyWho?i think you mean what 8DOkay thenWhat?santa's sleighNows not a good time to make my head explode with confusionXDworking on the engine?Not at the momentor is it like homework or somethingYepi seebogus=PSomewhat confused on the Sting Chameleon mud gimmickCan't seem to think of a good way to do thatwell, it treats the player like they're always on the ground while you're in itcuz you can dash at any pointYeah, I understand how it works, but everything I tried so far is getting mixed resultshmAlso running into an issue with float values on platformsWhich is going to make me pull my hair out in the future, particular when I do the mine carts.haha, what issue?Collision issues reallyahrounding doesn't suffice?Not sure yet. At the time, I was working on those multi directional platforms from X2yeahI worked a solid workaround for that, but that same workaround won't work for the cartsI'll try rounding when I get a chance. That should workhaha, hope sowhat about level gimmicks that haven't existed in previous games?Depends on what it is.vertically-conveying ladders xDHmmReminds me of Zero 4But it was those hang thingies insteadyeahzx had some of those tooReally? I can't remember ZX xDhahaI should probably go through that againI'm going to be implementing Zero 1 style Yoku BlocksIf you remember thoseyoku?Dissapearing blocksahi know them as boon blocksAhwhat's the difference with zero 1's style?Zero 1's are fairly larger than the ones in classic MMBut you can't wall jump/wall slide on themi seeok the problem with the intro screen charge shot is it still has the pink ring around ityou made the in-game one all blueReally? I swore I changed thatxDNo, I did change it o.Oit's still pink in 035Definitely not pink for me in 035Screenshot if you cani'll screenVIDEOOOxDBrb, reconnectingadded to the bug list a bitkkthis is lame of me to forget, but did hearts refill our health in the original games?NopeAh capsules freezes on low health. Did not know that =OShould be easy fixcan X fit through 1-tile-wide vertical passages?he can in the X3Oh?Well, not in the enginei seei tested it with that level editor =PAhhThat would help me out a lot o.Oyeah haha, you can test a lot of circumstances that you don't run into with the default level designsYeahfor instance, those spike balls dropped in the intro stage, they actually have legit-looking bounce physics for when they hit the ground, and when they do they just roll back and forth, reflecting off wallsin the default level design, they always just falls down a pit in the floor so you don't see that propertyfall*In X3?yeahI seeHmm, head collider is 12 px wide. Gonna need to do a lot of adjustsments to add that >.<head collider?Yeahthe head has a different collision box?>.>Yeahweird o_ONot just the headTheres atleast 6 collision detectorsX's collision box is 16x32, but that doesn't apply to background collision, only enemiesI'm talking about the real games btw, not the engineyeah i knowAlso going by X1, probably different in X3kk, can fit through single tiles now in engineThanks for that btwcool, no probwhat if there was likethe opposite of sting chameleon's swamp waterwhere you rise slowlyand you can't go down so you have to enter from belowI don't even have the descend part yetand there could be stretches of spiked ceilings that you have to get past as fast as possiblexD i know you'd say that hahaknew*That's similar to MM9 Wily StageAnd honestly, that's much easier to dohaha strangeWell for that, all I'd have to do is lock the Y velocity and it's pretty much done xDexcept for when the player jumps/gets hurti assume those would boost the height/speedThose are bounded to the velocity as well, you can't even jump if the value isn't at 0then it won't be like the swamp water, will it? xDHmm, no it wouldn't. I wasn't thinking swamp water.I was thinking more of a gravity effectWhat water pulls you upwards anyway? o.Othat's my pointit'd be awesome-weirdand uniquexDLoli mean technically we float in water, as long as we have breathI that's what I was thinking. But then you said jumping =Pwell yeah, cuz of the swamp water propertyof being all thickxDiunno i'mweirdWell yeah, we already knew thatgeared towards weirdwith a beardto be fearedIf I can figure it out, I'll try itand never shearedxDcool =Pkk, swamp thingy is implemented. Your odd reverse swamp thingy toonice =Dthanks Blame Dragono.Oyeah that's righti blame you!What'd I do?i accuse you of being far too awesome for your own good!=ODO you want this boss battle theme to be more energetic, more dark/evil, or more "sad" sounding?basically: faster/slower | evil/sad/positive/neutralYou're making a boss battle theme?you asked me to didn't you?>I did?...No, I'm serious. I don't remember"If you want to use your talents, what I need more than anything right now is boss battle music"something to that extentHmm okay-_-;Hey, I have a lot on my mind!I can't fit everythingyeah yeah =P it's all good hahait's just that you sound now like you don't want one at allNo, of course notI still would like oneI just don't remember asking you, that's all =PI somewhat do nowoksooooyou gonna answer that question? xDas for a suggestion, what about those crazy moving huge chunks of ground at the beginning of X4?and falling ceilings, maybe also ceilings that fall and rise, or just the junk compactors from flame mammothSorry, what question did you need me to answer?Haha, I'm out of it todayoh look, IT'S YOUHOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN?the question about the boss battlei don't see what's so hard about scrolling up through the chat history >_>boss battle theme: fast or slow? upbeat or slower? dark/evil, sad, positive, or neutral?Also, how did the frame rate work out for you in the latest build? I know theres usually an issue with that........?http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/10/20/legends-3-heroine-contest-reminder/ quick, vote for haruki's design! =Oshe mustt winnnnYa, I agreeAlready voted thoughaw xDthe leading one looks too typical anime-ish =)=(**and too battle networky, to medon't know why it's winninggmy friend T_T "w/e idc about this game anymore""if i dont get to play as MM im not interested"scoopHey, have you played/tested MMXC?who are youuuuwhy do you ask such thingsssswho am iiiiLolWell I was talking with Nitroflasher and he was like things felt better in my engine compared to MMXCWhich seemed odd to menitro huh? the musician?Though I'm only going by what I seeYai'm surprised he would reveal such things to youIs that a bad thing?Is he in trouble!? =Onot sure that jkb would will it xDbut i guess it's not a bad thingWell it's not like he talked about itHe didn't say anything about it reallylet's put it this way: the only disadvantage MMXC has to your engine, is that it can't run at 30 fps due to flash limitationsthat extra fps makes a bigger difference than you might thinkOh okayeri mean't, it can't run at 60, and runs at 30 xDmeant* omgI really just meant in terms of like controls and physics*suffocates in spelling errors*But I guess that could influence ityeah, it really doeswhen things run at 60 fps, you have to have quicker reflexes, x feels heavier, etc.I still find that odd, but whateverI'll just wait and see for myselfyep =Pnitro's never spoken a word to me >:IOh?even though i try to give positive criticism on his music and suchWell he hasn't really spoken to much to me either. If that makes you feel better.xPwho cares how i feelI do T_T... slightlyxDAnyway, I can't get these damn platforms to work properly >=(It's making me pull out my hairI don't even have hairBut it's coming outxDwhat platformsTrying to get X1-ish falling platformsah, like the road chunks?Where they're like, joint togetherYeahi seeThe actual stepping, and then the platform falls, that part is easyIt's the thingy where it's connected to another platformdid they all fall if you stepped on one of the connected ones? i didn't think they didNot all of em, it depends how it's connectedOne sec, lemme snap somethinghttp://i.imgur.com/jllby.pngYou see how theres two platforms in that pic?Kinda hard to tellyeah i dokIf you step on the left one, only that one will fallBut if you step on the right, they both willyeahmakes sense logicallyYeah logically, but I can't figure out how to program thatI've been bashing my head for like 3 dayshow about thisfor the sideways checksif it detects a non-collapsable platform on either side, its status is "stable"if either/both sides are collapsible plats, it checks if the next one is stable, and if that one has another collapsible, it also passes on the check to see if THAT one is stableuntil at the end, it either passes true if there's a non-collapsible platform right next to itor false if it's just airanother collapsible next to it*I tried exactly that, the problem with that is that the non-stable ones wouldn't know when exactly to fallare the falls staggered somehow?In the game, noIf they were, that would make it easier to doThey fall at the exact same time, so theres another mystery check that runs when you step on itso then maybe like, a variable-sized collision box you create that touches all of the ones that need to fall, right when they should fall xDTried thator you could have it destroy all of them, then have just one resize its collision box and display the graphics for the rest as it fallsall but one i meanHmmk, that's something I haven't tried. I'll do that tonightcoo =) good lurk!you see this? http://www.themmnetwork.com/2010/10/24/waiting-for-legends-3-a-tribute/No, but you made my browser crashThanks a lot._.Haha coolas cool as tortillas?red phlegmhttp://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/02/04/leviathan-garage-kit-revisited/wooocelebrationHmm?admittedly, the beginning of the stage sucks xDbut props for using wire sponge music=PWhat sucks about it exactly if I may ask?Not that I disagree with youthe icy slopes leading into spikes T_TThat can't be it =Pwell, if it were a real stageyeahbut w/e xDi'm wondering, did the screen usually shake when the sliding ice block hits a wall?Nopeokah you even did side splashes in the watersometimes the side splashes, though, are like 8 px off the edge of the waterThey're not positioned correcting in pre-036 for some reasonyeahYeah xDlolI fixed that alreadycoolWeird because it was working before I uploadedAtleast I thought it wasi seewhy's the head capsule text from X1? xDIt's notit said you can break blocks with itBecause you can nowoh lolcould X really jump out of sting chameleon's swamp water that easily?I believe so, mine isn't as deepYep, he can. Just double checkedI know, it's weirdi seebug: cursor doesn't go anywhere in pause menu when you press up or down, but makes noise and flickersI have to do more experimentation with thatbug: collecting (cleverly hidden) heart in sewer water kept the game frozen for a few seconds after the first jingle noise, not modifying health, played the sound again and THEN modified health and unfrozeNeed to modify sound files a bit to fix thatLol at cleverly hidden sarcasmwell i didn't catch it my first time through xDLikely because of another bugyay capsuleyou and your clever view manipulationHeart tanks have a tendency to dissapear in that buildLolYeah I liked that one xDthe sinking pillars don't shake =PThey do in full 036ah oknice, looks like you got the falling highway parts figured outI did not spend much time on visuals for that one. I just needed the actual coding tested outthat one = pre-036yeah, i remember us discussing itOh yeah, I've had the falling highway thing for awhile nowhmm but they don't fall when you climb on their sidesI did that when you gave me the first half of the level layoutThey're not supposed toAtleast not in X1ahAgain, I thought the same thingSome odd design choices by Capcom=Plava geysers that break through the floor, can't remember where those are fromFlame Mammothwhich part?Like mid-section of the levelOnly occurs if you haven't beaten Chill PenguinOtherwise the fire is frozenyeahguess that's it?Yeah for nowcoolnessdoesn't look like there are too many bugsIf you can make time, I just need those stuff thoroughly testedTheres way more in the full 036. Obviouslyyeahsorry i haven't gotten that title theme finished yet, don't think i've forgotten =PHaha, alrightywhat are the plans for future releases at this point? 036, then first public release after that?Public release is just a demo, just to clarify. The engine itself won't be up for use until I'm pretty much finished with itWhich is around when I add Zeroah i seeokI unfortunately did not get to implement all the level gimmicks I wanted toI'm not sure if I want to another seperate build with more gimmicksis there some kind of limitation?No, just limitation on time I guessohI didn't want to spend as much time on this build as I didIt's been like 6 months or so since the last oneyeah hahai knowSo I just cut it short036 will not have any weapons in it, for multiple reasons that I can explain if you want me toSo 037 will be reimplementing those, and rebalancing and repairing themlol i don't really mindBut for now, I do not know when I'll start 037xed = x engine data?Yeah, simple I knowThat file is half the reason weapons aren't in this buildwoo good guess me 8Dwhat is it?Pretty much, it's the damage data for every weapona crutch?ahI used X1's damage system in all older buildsBut X2/X3 is completely differentoh really?I changed the buster to that systemBut that made all weapons unusable pretty muchhmmwhat was actually different about it?It'll be explained clearly when I post the changelogPretty interestingdoes it use float values or somethingNo, that's the magic of itLet me explain X1's firstit acts as if it is, but it isn't kinda thing?okX-Buster normal shot does 1 damage in X1semi-charged does 2full charged does 3When I say full, I mean without armor =PrightSome enemies use very logical damagingIf it has 5 health, you hit it 5 times, and it diesBut there are MANY enemies in X1 that use a "damage resistance" of sortLike the Miner enemies in Flame Mammoth levelThey have a health value of 5but a semi-charge will only do 1 damage to themnot 2It is awkward, because not every enemy uses this resistance methodThat make sense so far?yeahFell asleep on me =(no loltotally reading every pixel8Dk, so in X1, buster normal damage is 1-2-3But in X2/X3, they changed it to 3-5-8ah, larger base scaleExactlyso yeah, it would seem more float-esque because of thatIt removes the need for any "resistance" or float valuesI'm using that system now, but right now I have this potential problemIf you hit an enemy on the exact frame the bullet spawns, it'll likely do 0 damageIt should be an obvious fix but it's been giving me troubleah i see, is it because you set the damage value after the projectile is spawned?YeahSometimes it works properly though, which is the odd thinghmMy workaround was give every bullet a default value before setting it to the proper oneWell, it's not an issue that will occur in normal gameplay. It's humanly impossible to fire that fastBut stillyou'd probably have to rewrite some stuff, but what if the object being hit instead referenced preset values assigned to the names of each projectile -- that type of thing?or do you use the same projectiles with sprite and damage changes in some instancesNo, they're "mostly" different projectilesBut having the target reference values was exactly what I was trying to avoidrightThat would be a fine solution, if I wasn't trying to make a dynamic sort of engineAnyway, damage thingy asideCollision is really improved this build, for the most partI believe it was you who helped me out on thatWith the level editor thingyah yeah rightthat was fun =PHahaThe one thing thats different in my engine, and I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thingIn original games, actions don't occur when you press a button, they occur about 4 frames laterIt doesn't change things visually, but it makes it slightly more comfortableyeah, doesn't that keep you from firing an uncharged shot before you chargethat original wayThat, among other thingsI forcefully added the uncharged shot thing thoughyeah, MMXC went with that tooeveryone's doing it xDHeheOh, last thingYou didn't have any performance issues right?I would expect you of all people to have some complaintsyeah it was all good =Pkk, coolWow, Japan is getting hit with more quakes =/D:that whole mess is totally bogusbut i'd rather be there and have had it happened there than to be here and have it happen herethey don't freak out in stupid ways like americans would xDThat's trueBut this is getting quite scary, even though I'm all the way out hereAnother potential 9.0 quake is on the wayCurrently the radiation is so bad, tap water is undrinkable (is that even a word?)jeeezyes undrinkable is a wordwhere do you live? CA i presume?Nah, further east. NYah lolThis is horrible to say, but why did it have to happen to Japan of all places @_@All my gaming entertainment is getting either delayed or canceled now =(<.<i know how you feel, same goes for anime schedulesYeahsomewhat surprisingly the 3DS release is without delayThey're likely shipped out alreadyyeahhehe http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/03/23/toru-nakayama-does-rockman-zero-rockman/Thats just plan awesomeplain*yus =P=O http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/03/23/ippo-yamada-announces-new-rockman-zero-album/Wow, still not done with Zero, eh?haha i knowahhhahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo1Y6KTHDt4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AleGybqKrO0&feature=player_profilepage#t=125sxD http://kobun20.interordi.com/2011/04/12/the-manga-of-rockman-perfect-memories-part-2/Legends 3 footage up if you haven't seen it yet =Pyeah i saw itlooking pretty sweetthe reaverbot explosions were super awesome lookingHehI really like the character modelsyeah they're decentthe expressionlessness of them bugs me thoughThat's going to be changed for sureeveryone except barrett looks mindless, and that's probably just because of his goggles and eyebrowsThe actual models themselves I think are greatoyExpression doesn't have to do with the model itself, but I do agree with youi know xPMy biggest problem right now is the textures (which is your problem too). They look exactly like they did in PS1o_OYou hadn't noticed?Just take a look at the ground/buildings. They are extremely low qualityi noticed themAhi think the actual textures themselves, though, look more realistic (bleh) but less colorful, in most cases (bleh)They look realistic because they are. They're actually photos that Capcom took and pasted them as textures.o_O just for the sake getting the prototype out there, i should hope?But it doesn't blend well at allYeah, I'm hoping as well. Because it's still in alpha, I'll shrug it asiderightBut I'd be really really really dissapointed if the final product looks anything like thatsamethat was just the city thoughi think the ruins looked magnificentThey didBut the city is supposed to be the main hub. You're going to be seeing it a lot =(ayeAlso wondering if they'll be doing anymore of these. It doesn't seem like a good way to show off their game, so I'm wondering if there'd be like a "revised" version?Also glad to finally play a Legends game with analog controls. God knows it needed ityeah haha definitely